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Sure....
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
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byron posted...

How specifically?

I already explained it to you. If you don't like my explanation then go do you're own research and tell me how it's wrong.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

But lets go back to the beginning of this topic where we started. You can't seriously tell me you don't think the US government is largely to blame for crazy healthcare costs in this country right?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

byron posted...

Like firefighters, police, teachers..

Are you serious? I could be two of those within a year if I wanted to be. Most people don't give 10 years of their life to med school and residency because they're pure-hearted martyrs, they do it because it's a job with a high market value. And once again, health care isn't a public service, and it shouldn't be.

byron posted...

Do you think people would rather be on a waiting list or not be able to get treatment at all?

You can get treatment. Go to the ER. They will treat you. Granted you're not going to get the same level of medical treatment, much like a universal system.

byron posted...

You didn't respond to my point though. Those countries spend less than we do but cover more. America has waiting lists.

They don't get more. there's a reason why people fly here from Canada to get surgery. Universal is good for basic needs, not upper echelon treatment. And once again, if you have no money, go to the ER, they'll give you an xray. The ER basically is universal healthcare for people with no money in this country. I'll grant you that healthcare in the US as it stands is overall worse than some of those countries, but that's not because of the market. It's because of the government and the insurance providers
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Anteaterking posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

If you have the viewpoint that it's a right then that means you're in favor of the government forcing doctors to provide their service at whatever mandated compensation. you've essentially removed the incentive for someone to become a physician or a surgeon.

Do you think the primary driver of healthcare costs is doctor salary?

No, that's not what I said. I've already said the major driver in the US is this unnatural marriage of insurance and government involvement.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

byron posted...

Excellent argument for setting up a national Healthcare system.

Okay responding to that novel:

How do other countries cover all of those things and spend significantly less than us?

Healthcare isn't a right, it's a service. If you have the viewpoint that it's a right then that means you're in favor of the government forcing doctors to provide their service at whatever mandated compensation. you've essentially removed the incentive for someone to become a physician or a surgeon. Which leads to fewer physicians and surgeons. Which means healthcare is less plentiful, which is why in countries that have systems like these you can get stuck on a very long wait list for a surgery you might be in dire need of. Which is why you have healthcare black markets in those countries.

You want health care to be cheaper? incentivize people to become doctors, and allow free market competition.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Gafemage posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

IronChef_Kirby posted...

C, but only over hard. Runny stuff grosses me out.

Runny yolk is the only thing that makes eggs worth eating tastewise

This post is offensive & erases the impact scrambled eggs have made on the world. You're generally correct as far as non-scrambled eggs go, though.

eh, I've never really enjoyed scrambled eggs unless they had cheese or cream in them. Pretty mediocre on their own. definitely nowhere near as awesome as over easy fried eggs.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Okay, I've already explained tuition. Do you seriously want me to break down to you how health insurance works and why it's a giant cluster fuck?

Simply put, health insurance shouldn't cover routine doctor visits and shit like that, it should be for very serious instances like a serious accident or contracting cancer. The reason health insurance is so expensive is because they do have to cover all that. Which is like expecting your auto insurance provider to cover putting gas in your car or changing your oil or paying for new tires. If that were the case, guess what? Auto insurance is about the get a whole hell of a lot more expensive, just like your health insurance is. Tires are about the get a lot more expensive too, cause fuck it, the insurance company is paying for it.

Then you have the inability to refuse insurance to someone with a pre-existing condition...........why in the hell would you buy an insurance policy if you can just wait until your sick to?! And now the GOP has taken this colossally stupid idea and removed the mandate(which was bullshit anyway, the penalty was cheaper than actually paying for insurance).

Routine doctor visits are a service, just like routine work on your car. Insurance and the government should have no involvement in that, they just make it worse and more expensive.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

byron posted...

I'm scared to get too specific so I'm just gonna vaguely ask for evidence. I'm not sure what I want evidence of exactly but I'm hoping he won't notice that.

hey, we all get nervous out of our element. Don't beat yourself up about it
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

byron posted...

Because you're talking some bullshit and not backing it up!

I'm actually just posting some common knowledge. you should probably do some research before you look silly
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Kaiganeer posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

College shouldn't be paid for by the government.

i agree with this to a degree, but i don't think the way the US turns education into a business necessarily works well either

The reason why tuition is so high is because any yokel with a pulse can take out tens of thousands of dollars to spend 4 years without a job pursuing a useless piece of paper. Which means colleges can get away with murder for how much they charge in tuition.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

byron posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

The only reason college and healthcare are as expensive as they are is because of government fuckery

I don't understand economics

We know buddy, its okay
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

IronChef_Kirby posted...

C, but only over hard. Runny stuff grosses me out.

Runny yolk is the only thing that makes eggs worth eating tastewise
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Stem degrees pretty much are free to those qualified to pursue them 95% of the time.

College shouldn't be paid for by the government. The only reason college and healthcare are as expensive as they are is because of government fuckery
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

SailorGoon posted...

Fried eggs on everything. Fried eggs on my fried eggs

This, I'll eat an over easy egg on just about anything
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

The entire world knows that Russia is interfering with elections all across the world including in our country. Regardless of whether there was any collusion it is absolutely shameful at the White House refuses to acknowledge it because it would make trump look bad.

Worst case scenario is there was collusion which I don't really believe. Best case scenario is Trump refuses to acknowledge it because he's putting his ego before this country. Do you really see no problem with that?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

averagejoel posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

I agree with him. You're basically asking Facebook to police thought and open discussion if you don't.

facebook does police open discussion though. I know tons of people have had accounts suspended just for complaining about the racism they experience on a day-to-day basis.

apparently it doesn't work both ways though

yeah, I don't believe that at all. lol

it's true whether or not you believe it. it's a common enough phenomenon that people refer to it as "getting zucc'd"

So your stance is that Mark Zuckerberg is a racist sympathizer?

LOL!
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Conflict posted...

Yeah you realize free speech's only limitation is that you can't get arrested for it, correct

To be clear I'm not saying Facebook shouldn't be allowed to moderate behavior on their platform if they want to. I am saying as a shareholder that I agree with his stance not to
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

averagejoel posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

I agree with him. You're basically asking Facebook to police thought and open discussion if you don't.

facebook does police open discussion though. I know tons of people have had accounts suspended just for complaining about the racism they experience on a day-to-day basis.

apparently it doesn't work both ways though

yeah, I don't believe that at all. lol
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Because they have every reason to?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Only care about rdr
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

eston posted...

Caution999 posted...

eston posted...

Who would pay for you to take a decade off to go have babies?

My thinking was you pay it back from your retirement accounts and just keep working until you can't. Working keeps older people alive anyway. Working is very beneficial for older people.

"idle hands are the devil's play things"

So the idea is that everyone would spend 10 years living off of money they don't have yet

What could go wrong!?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

and you can retire whenever you want to if you have the means to do it
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Most people are broke as fuck at 30. hell a good chunk of this generation is under crushing student debt well into their 30s.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Abyssea posted...

what other reason would you have to move to Thailand?

Because it's fucking beautiful there, and you can live a pretty nice lifestyle with not that much money.

A lot of my friends gave me shit when I went to SE asia about how I was just going to bang a bunch of hookers. I mean there are definitely people who go there for that. In Saigon you'll see plenty of old western guys with young Vietnamese girls who are obviously hookers. Not grossly young, I'm sure that happens too but not openly.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Omnislasher posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

"Capitalism doesn't work"

*slugs mountain dew while typing on computer with internet in air conditioned room siting on a comfy chair wearing nice clothing looking out a window waiting for the pizza delivery guy in his automobile*

state-funded research and development gave us the internet

your internet provider gave you the internet
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Payzmaykr posted...

Didnt Hulk Hogan make a private phone call that somebody brought to the public? Same with Dog the Bounty Hunter and Elvis Costello (sort of).

Im not taking up for what was said, but it is something of an invasion of privacy to record private conversations for the purpose of slandering somebody.

Think it was a sex tape......he won a lawsuit if I remember correctly.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Maybe.....probably not

I've got a good 60 lbs on her and it's not fat weight. She'd light my ass up in a stand up fight, but if I got her on the ground i could maybe overwhelm her with my size. I dunno, she's a brown belt so she's much more experienced in bjj, she could probably break my arm if she wanted to.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

forgave him a long time ago. he got pissed and said some fucked up things on stage. nothing most people aren't guilty of privately.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

s0nicfan posted...

DeadSite posted...

s0nicfan posted...

DeadSite posted...

s0nicfan posted...

DeadSite posted...

And none of these things prove capitalism works because they were also done despite capitalism

They were done on the backs of capitalism, not in spite of it.

How so? NASA is a government entity not a private industry

A government needs sufficient revenue to fund those industries.

And the revenue they used to fund these industries are socialist programs. These programs were also developed after anti trust laws were created.

Socialist programs don't generate revenue. They consume revenue.

exactly, this man gets it
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Really? cause it seems the be the most effective system in history. What would be better in your opinion?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Yeah no shit, she's a socialist
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

DarkTransient posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

Do I have permission to be there?

You can arrange permission before accepting the offer, if you like.

Maybe, there's a lot of variables to that. I'll spend a year in a hotel and have them lie to me if I'm welcome and won't be imprisoned unless I break the law. I can stay impartial and bite my tongue
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

I agree with him. You're basically asking Facebook to police thought and open discussion if you don't.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Do I have permission to be there?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

littlebro07 posted...

Delirious_Beard posted...

littlebro07 posted...

and actually challenging again

legion had incredibly challenging content

I should clarify

Is the journey from level 1 to whatever the hell the level cap is now challenging? Are there quests that force me to travel the world and group with people

Or did they just make some kick-ass new raids and say fuck the rest like they usually do

I mean, it's pretty understanding why they do that. They still wanna attract new players who aren't hopelessly behind everyone else
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Haven't they always done this when new expansions come out since like the late 00s?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Because most of the population is white......

Surely you already know that
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Veggeta X posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

Why do you think he's full of himself?

Being stoned and rambling about shit makes you full of yourself?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Why do you think he's full of himself?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

PiOverlord posted...

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

What do you think English royalty do, exactly?

Oh, so they show up to events, make some speeches. Do you think they deserve all the benefits and influence they get just because they were born or married into a specific family?

Royalty is the very definition of the "elites up top"

I agree that a ton of money is wasted on the British monarchy, but they're not really influential at all..........
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

If you don't want to be Male or female then we'll just classify you as other, cause no one gives a shit you fucking narcissist
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Lost: Via Domus

I had a gamefly account and was super into achievements at the time and heard this game was an easy 1000 gs points. And it was, but total dog shit game
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

More like their calling out their entire customer base
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

Probably the best war documentary series I've ever seen. I've learned so much. I knew the basic story of why we were there and how it unfolded but it's super interesting to see it broken down event by event. And it's incredibly well done.

This should be shown in every American high school history class.
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

iPhone_7 posted...

But I thought it was DOOMED because of the controversy

What controversy?
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle

I think it'd be more prudent to teach your kids that being famous is a pretty stupid goal in life
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"People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time"
-Detective Rust Cohle